Update: Jay responded on Twitter, which you can read here.
I read an article recently by Jay Kreps about a feature for delivering messages ‘exactly-once’ within the Kafka framework. Everyone’s excited, and for good reason. But there’s been a bit of a side story about what exactly ‘exactly-once’ means, and what Kafka can actually do.
In the article, Jay identifies the safety and liveness properties of atomic broadcast as a pretty good definition for the set of properties that Kafka is going after with their new exactly-once feature, and then starts to address claims by naysayers that atomic broadcast is impossible.
For this note, I’m not going to address whether or not exactly-once is an implementation of atomic broadcast. I also believe that exactly-once is a powerful feature that’s been impressively realised by Confluent and the Kafka community; nothing here is a criticism of that effort or the feature itself. But the article makes some claims about impossibility that are, at best, a bit shaky - and, well, impossibility’s kind of my jam. Jay posted his article with a tweet saying he couldn’t ‘resist a good argument’. I’m responding in that spirit.
In particular, the article makes the claim that atomic broadcast is ‘solvable’ (and later that consensus is as well…), which is wrong. What follows is why, and why that matters.
This deserves a response: I think the conclusions are right but the imposs. arguments aren't. But it's 8pm in England and I'm in the pub. https://t.co/akmVv9rhW7— Henry Robinson (@HenryR) July 2, 2017
I have since left the pub. So let’s begin.[Read More]